tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post3901593879771775974..comments2023-10-01T10:53:39.465-04:00Comments on John's Blog: Indonesian Expatriates ForumAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03523641844919145486noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-65968176941575681552008-02-28T15:42:00.000-05:002008-02-28T15:42:00.000-05:00What's TKW mean?What's TKW mean?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523641844919145486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-66716001463535366462008-02-25T17:21:00.000-05:002008-02-25T17:21:00.000-05:00foreigners here are called expats too.. except may...foreigners here are called expats too.. except maybe.. indonesians who are called by Saudis TKW all the time... no matter what kind of job they do :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-11655618079527428512008-01-31T14:07:00.000-05:002008-01-31T14:07:00.000-05:00a0z0ra & coffee,yeh i agree with both of u. both ...a0z0ra & coffee,<BR/><BR/>yeh i agree with both of u. both kinda snobbish, eh? but also that's the reality of it, poor immigrants are seen as beggars, rich ones seen as short termers...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523641844919145486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-89784742319477383422008-01-30T20:38:00.000-05:002008-01-30T20:38:00.000-05:00"Btw, why are Westerners in Indonesia called expat..."Btw, why are Westerners in Indonesia called expats, whereas foreigners in in Europe are called immigrants?"<BR/><BR/>He..he..my husband said is because of social economic imbalances. The Westerners come and work for higher paid while those foreigners come and work in Europe for just a slightly better paid than in their countries...:) Just a thought and I agree with him..:)<BR/>Where's the story from Indo trip??coffeeliqueurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04504471880150749156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-57492491290529571882008-01-28T14:29:00.000-05:002008-01-28T14:29:00.000-05:00Speaking as an Indo-Expat in US, the term "Expat" ...Speaking as an Indo-Expat in US, the term "Expat" has more positive connotations than "Immigrant". Thus foreigners living in 3rd world countries are viewed in higher regards than 3rd-world rebels who ran away from their countries. :)a0z0rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799716885690753404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-83705808658555964262008-01-28T08:55:00.000-05:002008-01-28T08:55:00.000-05:00Just another thought - perhaps it has to do with m...Just another thought - perhaps it has to do with most foreigners in post-independence Indonesia are professionals - Engineers, bankers, miners etc - here only temporarily for work purposes with a view to eventually returning to their home countries rather than with a view to living out their days here. 'Migrants' seems to imply a more permanent arrangement. Just another shot in the dark :)Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08784009705269839755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-4062362239866342012008-01-27T11:09:00.000-05:002008-01-27T11:09:00.000-05:00doesn't sound much more difficult than most europe...doesn't sound much more difficult than most european countries i know :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523641844919145486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9256104.post-21417606049113423952008-01-27T02:36:00.000-05:002008-01-27T02:36:00.000-05:00"Btw, why are Westerners in Indonesia called expat..."Btw, why are Westerners in Indonesia called expats, whereas foreigners in in Europe are called immigrants?"<BR/><BR/>As a guess, I'd say because to become an immigrant to Indonesia is extremely difficult. Indonesia is somewhat reluctant to allow foreigners become permanent residents or citizens. I think you have to stay with the same company for five years before you can become a permanent resident. So we have to live here as sponsored employees and thus as 'expats'. Could be completely wrong though. :-)Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08784009705269839755noreply@blogger.com